Realise it is a common question and have searched through the group:
I have a Windows 2003 R2 cluster (with SQL 2000 SP4) which needs to be
renamed (Nodes, cluster name)
Is there any way to bypass re-installing SQL 2000 after this has been
completed?
(Various non microsoft sites point towards using sp_dropserver and
sp_addserver or updating the syservers table)
eg http://blog.opsan.com/archive/2005/05/10/465.aspx
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa197071(SQL.80).aspx
Thanks.
why you need rename nodes?
you can change virtual server name but microsoft not recommend this.
do NOT update system tables manually.
if you rename sql server (sp_dropserver and sp_addserver), cluster will not
check sql status and servis will be mark as failure.
best solution: install new sql
Aleksandar Grbic
MCDBA, Senior Database Administrator
"RichardT" wrote:
> Realise it is a common question and have searched through the group:
> I have a Windows 2003 R2 cluster (with SQL 2000 SP4) which needs to be
> renamed (Nodes, cluster name)
> Is there any way to bypass re-installing SQL 2000 after this has been
> completed?
> (Various non microsoft sites point towards using sp_dropserver and
> sp_addserver or updating the syservers table)
> eg http://blog.opsan.com/archive/2005/05/10/465.aspx
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa197071(SQL.80).aspx
> Thanks.
|||"RichardT" <RichardT@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7DE1DC20-FF62-4B1B-BE0A-6151F11D06F9@.microsoft.com...
> Realise it is a common question and have searched through the group:
> I have a Windows 2003 R2 cluster (with SQL 2000 SP4) which needs to be
> renamed (Nodes, cluster name)
> Is there any way to bypass re-installing SQL 2000 after this has been
> completed?
> (Various non microsoft sites point towards using sp_dropserver and
> sp_addserver or updating the syservers table)
> eg http://blog.opsan.com/archive/2005/05/10/465.aspx
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa197071(SQL.80).aspx
Well, I would start with going back to basics and doing a risk assessment
associated with the change and mitigation strategies. Risk, everything
possible going wrong. Mitigating that risk: Don't make the change as it is
completely unnecessary.
Russ Kaufmann
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
ClusterHelp.com, a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
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Blog http://msmvps.com/clusterhelp
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012
Rename a cluster.. is it possible
We have a single instance cluster on 2 nodes say SQL1. We want to do a
side-by-side upgrade of the underlying hardware and we have another cluster
with 2 nodes already ready and its called SQL2. At the time of cutover, we
want to just rename SQL1 to SQLOld and SQL2 back to SQL1 so that our
applications can connect to SQL1 without having to go through any connection
name changes.
Can it be done ? We've done many of these on standalone SQL instances by
renaming servers.. Wasnt too sure how it works on a cluster. Especially
since we are not dependent on the node names and the applications just
connect to the Virtual SQL instance, I was not too sure how to go about the
same.
Thanks
We are using SQL 2000...
Also in SQL 2005, is it the same or is it better to do this easily ?
Why not just create a DNS alias and use that?
Tom
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON Canada
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
"Hassan" <hassan@.test.com> wrote in message
news:OI5fRApRIHA.1212@.TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
We have a single instance cluster on 2 nodes say SQL1. We want to do a
side-by-side upgrade of the underlying hardware and we have another cluster
with 2 nodes already ready and its called SQL2. At the time of cutover, we
want to just rename SQL1 to SQLOld and SQL2 back to SQL1 so that our
applications can connect to SQL1 without having to go through any connection
name changes.
Can it be done ? We've done many of these on standalone SQL instances by
renaming servers.. Wasnt too sure how it works on a cluster. Especially
since we are not dependent on the node names and the applications just
connect to the Virtual SQL instance, I was not too sure how to go about the
same.
Thanks
We are using SQL 2000...
Also in SQL 2005, is it the same or is it better to do this easily ?
|||I guess we could, but also curious if a rename is possible too ?
"Tom Moreau" <tom@.dont.spam.me.cips.ca> wrote in message
news:OvufTE1RIHA.5136@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Why not just create a DNS alias and use that?
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON Canada
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
>
> "Hassan" <hassan@.test.com> wrote in message
> news:OI5fRApRIHA.1212@.TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> We have a single instance cluster on 2 nodes say SQL1. We want to do a
> side-by-side upgrade of the underlying hardware and we have another
> cluster
> with 2 nodes already ready and its called SQL2. At the time of cutover, we
> want to just rename SQL1 to SQLOld and SQL2 back to SQL1 so that our
> applications can connect to SQL1 without having to go through any
> connection
> name changes.
> Can it be done ? We've done many of these on standalone SQL instances by
> renaming servers.. Wasnt too sure how it works on a cluster. Especially
> since we are not dependent on the node names and the applications just
> connect to the Virtual SQL instance, I was not too sure how to go about
> the
> same.
> Thanks
> We are using SQL 2000...
> Also in SQL 2005, is it the same or is it better to do this easily ?
>
|||Check out:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms178083.aspx
Tom
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON Canada
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
"Hassan" <hassan@.test.com> wrote in message
news:u2ulJiASIHA.5128@.TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
I guess we could, but also curious if a rename is possible too ?
"Tom Moreau" <tom@.dont.spam.me.cips.ca> wrote in message
news:OvufTE1RIHA.5136@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Why not just create a DNS alias and use that?
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON Canada
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
>
> "Hassan" <hassan@.test.com> wrote in message
> news:OI5fRApRIHA.1212@.TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> We have a single instance cluster on 2 nodes say SQL1. We want to do a
> side-by-side upgrade of the underlying hardware and we have another
> cluster
> with 2 nodes already ready and its called SQL2. At the time of cutover, we
> want to just rename SQL1 to SQLOld and SQL2 back to SQL1 so that our
> applications can connect to SQL1 without having to go through any
> connection
> name changes.
> Can it be done ? We've done many of these on standalone SQL instances by
> renaming servers.. Wasnt too sure how it works on a cluster. Especially
> since we are not dependent on the node names and the applications just
> connect to the Virtual SQL instance, I was not too sure how to go about
> the
> same.
> Thanks
> We are using SQL 2000...
> Also in SQL 2005, is it the same or is it better to do this easily ?
>
side-by-side upgrade of the underlying hardware and we have another cluster
with 2 nodes already ready and its called SQL2. At the time of cutover, we
want to just rename SQL1 to SQLOld and SQL2 back to SQL1 so that our
applications can connect to SQL1 without having to go through any connection
name changes.
Can it be done ? We've done many of these on standalone SQL instances by
renaming servers.. Wasnt too sure how it works on a cluster. Especially
since we are not dependent on the node names and the applications just
connect to the Virtual SQL instance, I was not too sure how to go about the
same.
Thanks
We are using SQL 2000...
Also in SQL 2005, is it the same or is it better to do this easily ?
Why not just create a DNS alias and use that?
Tom
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON Canada
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
"Hassan" <hassan@.test.com> wrote in message
news:OI5fRApRIHA.1212@.TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
We have a single instance cluster on 2 nodes say SQL1. We want to do a
side-by-side upgrade of the underlying hardware and we have another cluster
with 2 nodes already ready and its called SQL2. At the time of cutover, we
want to just rename SQL1 to SQLOld and SQL2 back to SQL1 so that our
applications can connect to SQL1 without having to go through any connection
name changes.
Can it be done ? We've done many of these on standalone SQL instances by
renaming servers.. Wasnt too sure how it works on a cluster. Especially
since we are not dependent on the node names and the applications just
connect to the Virtual SQL instance, I was not too sure how to go about the
same.
Thanks
We are using SQL 2000...
Also in SQL 2005, is it the same or is it better to do this easily ?
|||I guess we could, but also curious if a rename is possible too ?
"Tom Moreau" <tom@.dont.spam.me.cips.ca> wrote in message
news:OvufTE1RIHA.5136@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Why not just create a DNS alias and use that?
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON Canada
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
>
> "Hassan" <hassan@.test.com> wrote in message
> news:OI5fRApRIHA.1212@.TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> We have a single instance cluster on 2 nodes say SQL1. We want to do a
> side-by-side upgrade of the underlying hardware and we have another
> cluster
> with 2 nodes already ready and its called SQL2. At the time of cutover, we
> want to just rename SQL1 to SQLOld and SQL2 back to SQL1 so that our
> applications can connect to SQL1 without having to go through any
> connection
> name changes.
> Can it be done ? We've done many of these on standalone SQL instances by
> renaming servers.. Wasnt too sure how it works on a cluster. Especially
> since we are not dependent on the node names and the applications just
> connect to the Virtual SQL instance, I was not too sure how to go about
> the
> same.
> Thanks
> We are using SQL 2000...
> Also in SQL 2005, is it the same or is it better to do this easily ?
>
|||Check out:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms178083.aspx
Tom
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON Canada
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
"Hassan" <hassan@.test.com> wrote in message
news:u2ulJiASIHA.5128@.TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
I guess we could, but also curious if a rename is possible too ?
"Tom Moreau" <tom@.dont.spam.me.cips.ca> wrote in message
news:OvufTE1RIHA.5136@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Why not just create a DNS alias and use that?
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON Canada
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
>
> "Hassan" <hassan@.test.com> wrote in message
> news:OI5fRApRIHA.1212@.TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> We have a single instance cluster on 2 nodes say SQL1. We want to do a
> side-by-side upgrade of the underlying hardware and we have another
> cluster
> with 2 nodes already ready and its called SQL2. At the time of cutover, we
> want to just rename SQL1 to SQLOld and SQL2 back to SQL1 so that our
> applications can connect to SQL1 without having to go through any
> connection
> name changes.
> Can it be done ? We've done many of these on standalone SQL instances by
> renaming servers.. Wasnt too sure how it works on a cluster. Especially
> since we are not dependent on the node names and the applications just
> connect to the Virtual SQL instance, I was not too sure how to go about
> the
> same.
> Thanks
> We are using SQL 2000...
> Also in SQL 2005, is it the same or is it better to do this easily ?
>
Removing White Space
I have created a report with a drill down button for each unique record. However, when the nodes are not expanded (the default), the report displays with large amounts of white space (varying according to how much space is required once the node is fully expanded). Is there any way to remove this whitespace? Thanks in advance.
I've seen this before where I explicitly set the group header for the inner group to be invisible, but i accidentally left the footer visible. Got the exact same symptom.
Hope that's useful.
|||I tried this but unfortunately it didn't work - all my group headings are set to invisible... (when i initially load the report, I only view the resource names, no other information - indicating that they are set to invisible)
|||You need to make sure you are hiding the groups, not the individual rows inside the group. Edit the group properties and set the visibility there.Friday, March 9, 2012
Removing Nodes from a Virtual Server?
I've build a SQL 2000 SP3a cluster on top of an 8 node Windows 2003 cluster.
We've decided to split the cluster up into 2 individual clusters and as such
I'm attempting to remove some of the cluster nodes from the Virtual Server
Definiton (as per the "Adding or Removing a Cluster Node from the Vritual
Server Definition" of
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...clus.mspx#EGAA)
Anyway, I begin the SQL install and get to the Computer Name dialog where I
choose the virtual server name. I click next and the install GUI just
disapears. I check and setupsql.exe is continues to show up as running in
Taskman for about 10 minutes then just finishes up.
Any thoughts?
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
"Chris B." wrote:
> I've build a SQL 2000 SP3a cluster on top of an 8 node Windows 2003 cluster.
> We've decided to split the cluster up into 2 individual clusters and as such
> I'm attempting to remove some of the cluster nodes from the Virtual Server
> Definiton (as per the "Adding or Removing a Cluster Node from the Vritual
> Server Definition" of
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...clus.mspx#EGAA)
> Anyway, I begin the SQL install and get to the Computer Name dialog where I
> choose the virtual server name. I click next and the install GUI just
> disapears. I check and setupsql.exe is continues to show up as running in
> Taskman for about 10 minutes then just finishes up.
> Any thoughts?
|||Hi
Only 4 Nodes are supported on a cluster by SQL Server 2000. It is a setup UI
limitation.
You need to remove the installation like you installed it, with command
line.
Regards
Mike Epprecht, Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Zurich, Switzerland
IM: mike@.epprecht.net
MVP Program: http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/epprecht/
"Chris" <Chris@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:981588B6-717B-45C2-BBBA-F5C30A2AE5F2@.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Anyone have any thoughts on this?
> "Chris B." wrote:
|||Hmm, thanks for the quick reply.
I don't believe I installed from a command line, but those few weeks were
pretty crazy
Can you point me in the general direction of documentation
on the command line syntax? I assume you're talking about using the
sqlrem.bat file?
"Mike Epprecht (SQL MVP)" wrote:
> Hi
> Only 4 Nodes are supported on a cluster by SQL Server 2000. It is a setup UI
> limitation.
> You need to remove the installation like you installed it, with command
> line.
> Regards
> --
> Mike Epprecht, Microsoft SQL Server MVP
> Zurich, Switzerland
> IM: mike@.epprecht.net
> MVP Program: http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
> Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/epprecht/
> "Chris" <Chris@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:981588B6-717B-45C2-BBBA-F5C30A2AE5F2@.microsoft.com...
>
>
|||I have not seen any. It was in a discussion with a developer from the SQL
Server Development Team.
PSS might be able to help.
Regards
Mike Epprecht, Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Zurich, Switzerland
IM: mike@.epprecht.net
MVP Program: http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/epprecht/
"Chris" <Chris@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:22265BEA-AD19-4C06-BFE6-146D419CCE10@.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Hmm, thanks for the quick reply.
> I don't believe I installed from a command line, but those few weeks were
> pretty crazy
Can you point me in the general direction of
> documentation
> on the command line syntax? I assume you're talking about using the
> sqlrem.bat file?
> "Mike Epprecht (SQL MVP)" wrote:
We've decided to split the cluster up into 2 individual clusters and as such
I'm attempting to remove some of the cluster nodes from the Virtual Server
Definiton (as per the "Adding or Removing a Cluster Node from the Vritual
Server Definition" of
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...clus.mspx#EGAA)
Anyway, I begin the SQL install and get to the Computer Name dialog where I
choose the virtual server name. I click next and the install GUI just
disapears. I check and setupsql.exe is continues to show up as running in
Taskman for about 10 minutes then just finishes up.
Any thoughts?
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
"Chris B." wrote:
> I've build a SQL 2000 SP3a cluster on top of an 8 node Windows 2003 cluster.
> We've decided to split the cluster up into 2 individual clusters and as such
> I'm attempting to remove some of the cluster nodes from the Virtual Server
> Definiton (as per the "Adding or Removing a Cluster Node from the Vritual
> Server Definition" of
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...clus.mspx#EGAA)
> Anyway, I begin the SQL install and get to the Computer Name dialog where I
> choose the virtual server name. I click next and the install GUI just
> disapears. I check and setupsql.exe is continues to show up as running in
> Taskman for about 10 minutes then just finishes up.
> Any thoughts?
|||Hi
Only 4 Nodes are supported on a cluster by SQL Server 2000. It is a setup UI
limitation.
You need to remove the installation like you installed it, with command
line.
Regards
Mike Epprecht, Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Zurich, Switzerland
IM: mike@.epprecht.net
MVP Program: http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/epprecht/
"Chris" <Chris@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:981588B6-717B-45C2-BBBA-F5C30A2AE5F2@.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Anyone have any thoughts on this?
> "Chris B." wrote:
|||Hmm, thanks for the quick reply.
I don't believe I installed from a command line, but those few weeks were
pretty crazy
on the command line syntax? I assume you're talking about using the
sqlrem.bat file?
"Mike Epprecht (SQL MVP)" wrote:
> Hi
> Only 4 Nodes are supported on a cluster by SQL Server 2000. It is a setup UI
> limitation.
> You need to remove the installation like you installed it, with command
> line.
> Regards
> --
> Mike Epprecht, Microsoft SQL Server MVP
> Zurich, Switzerland
> IM: mike@.epprecht.net
> MVP Program: http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
> Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/epprecht/
> "Chris" <Chris@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:981588B6-717B-45C2-BBBA-F5C30A2AE5F2@.microsoft.com...
>
>
|||I have not seen any. It was in a discussion with a developer from the SQL
Server Development Team.
PSS might be able to help.
Regards
Mike Epprecht, Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Zurich, Switzerland
IM: mike@.epprecht.net
MVP Program: http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/epprecht/
"Chris" <Chris@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:22265BEA-AD19-4C06-BFE6-146D419CCE10@.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Hmm, thanks for the quick reply.
> I don't believe I installed from a command line, but those few weeks were
> pretty crazy
> documentation
> on the command line syntax? I assume you're talking about using the
> sqlrem.bat file?
> "Mike Epprecht (SQL MVP)" wrote:
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